1366x768? They could not even throw the consumer a bone with a 1600x900 option? Sorry, but 768p is absolutely out of the question for anything larger than a 12" display.
To top it off, we lose battery life on a redundant GPU. It's not even for the sake of the 3D gimmick fad.
Actually I used to think like you, but the lack of options made me buy a 1366x768 laptop. Exactly the P430.
And the resolution of the display is not a bummer like it sounds. I'm used to a 22" 1650x1080 display, and it has a big pixel pitch. I was worried that text would be too small on a 14" display, but with this "low resolution" it is actually readable.
bigger numbers are sexy, but the general world population is getting old and a lot of people wont have perfect eyesight forever.
high ppi makes text harder to read, and scaling does not work perfectly across the board (i need VMs and they dont scale with windows DPI). for this sole reason i changed my mind and now I think 1366x768 are perfectly fine for 13/14 inches.
... they sure won't get my money with a 1366x768 display.
Put in a 1600x900 (better even 1680x1050), ship it with external dvd and forget about the nvida card which is barely better than hd graphics. Fill the space with bigger battery.
Seriously. Imagine if they ditched the DVD drive and were able to cram the Macbook's Radeon 6750 in there with graphics switching. And throw in the new Synaptics clickpad that allegedly isn't derp derp with multi finger gestures.
You spoke from my heart! Are you reading my thoughts or what?
But seriously, this 768px vertical resolution is unacceptable by any means for anything else than watxhing video. Do people buy SB Quad Cores to watch How I met Your Mother in HD???? NO!
Wake up Neo! (Umm, this is for the notebook companies!) For anything over 12", and not in the ultracrappybudget category (for now, anything that costs $500+), this is not worth the crap the crap would crap, if it could eat and then crap it out! Working with it is nearly impossible, but highly like gripping one well-grown cactus in both hands while trying to seem happily smiling!
And optical drives are for what? Haven't used a disc in a more than a year by now (and I live in the ever-so-technically-behindered Hungary), and the last one was Fallout3, because that bitch won't run without the original disc... I won't want to lug around unuseful crap. A 6750M has a lot more uses. An even slimmer design is a lot more useful. More cooling has a lot more uses. More battery has a lot more uses. There are so many choices there are to make useful notebooks, and this one fails at an awesome number of them!
I don't blame the guys (and gals maybe) who designed it, but those who ordered that this should be designed, and even more those, who approved the design...
To top you: I use two of them 8 hours a day! Perfectly fine Eizo L557 displays, and I'm perfectly happy with them... If I'd feel the urge to get more pixels, I would probably convince our system admin guy to get two 1600x1200 displays for me. Though that's either a tough or an expensive task nowadays... I'd even go the pre-owned way...
And yes, we might be dated. At least I'm for sure... Been sitting in front of the (various kinds of) displays since 23 years - yep, that's an awful amount of time...
16:10 is also way better than 16:9, though I like having two displays, that eases the work a lot, and I don't really like the idea of working on two wide-screens - that's just too much :)
But I could even be happy with any kinds of weirdo aspect ratios, as long as I get my daily fix of vertical pixels. Maybe we should create a petition of some kind, maybe supporting our cause with weird made up facts like manufacturing and operating 768p displays at >12" sizes kills 38,6% more baby seals than doing the same with higher resolutions...
Thanks for the article, but could you make the tables in the same style as the "AnandTech" format (i.e. like the rest of the tables on this site)? It looks pretty bad as it is.
made anyone think these were a good idea? And people keep wondering why Apple is selling laptops like crazy compared to other manufacturers? At least they compensate any potential shortcomings with great design.
I have to buy a new notebook and these LG looked nice, but I'll go for another product because I see that there isn't any USB 3.0 port. I don't change my notebook every year and a notebook without USB 3.0 is not future-proof at all.
Sue LG as well as Samsung, they are just taking the p*ss now. Is it seriously so hard for other brands to actually hire good designers and then design a concept which they can roll out to their whole line that looks good without just copy and pasting what Apple does, only worse?? Generally it looks like LG did little work to actually profile who would purchase this other than somebody who wants something that resembles a Macbook but who can't afford one....if I was in that position, these might seem attractive until the weird decision on the discrete graphics which does little besides lessening battery life. Apple must be laughing their socks off at PC laptop manufacturers.
No, they DIDN'T. I just bought a P430, and paid half of the value a MacBook costs here at brazil. we may not have all latest and greatest tech from companies, but sometimes the manufacturers are not so greedy...
Call me crazy, but the weight of these laptops is nothing to brag about (even for a quad core Sandy Bridge machine). 1.94 kg (4.3 lbs) is 0.2 lbs lighter than the 13.3" Macbook Pro, which is an older design and was never that light to begin with.
Might be in the market for a new laptop a few months down the line myself. It’s nice to see a sensible resolution on these. The discrete GPU seems completely redundant, though—’sup with that?
I just bought one, believe me: it is worth every penny. The GPU is a litle redundant, but with Optimus it wont drain your battery. And it makes the diference between being able to game "low gfx" and "medium gfx". It is not much, but it IS a little better than HD3000.
(I would prefer an Ivy Bridge, as HD4000 would beat GT520, but thats not an option)
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Jason Inofuentes , I know this article is a little dated, but I bought one of these and they are not QUADs. LG is using the dual-core variant of i7 (and I believe it is good, because they turbo to 3.2ghz almost all the time. this machine is fast, except from HDD department of course).
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von Krupp - Friday, May 6, 2011 - link
1366x768? They could not even throw the consumer a bone with a 1600x900 option? Sorry, but 768p is absolutely out of the question for anything larger than a 12" display.To top it off, we lose battery life on a redundant GPU. It's not even for the sake of the 3D gimmick fad.
Aesthetically attractive. Functionally unattractive.
jack_kelly - Friday, May 6, 2011 - link
I couldn't agree more. >= 1600x900 is an absolute must on a 14" screen.marc1000 - Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - link
Actually I used to think like you, but the lack of options made me buy a 1366x768 laptop. Exactly the P430.And the resolution of the display is not a bummer like it sounds. I'm used to a 22" 1650x1080 display, and it has a big pixel pitch. I was worried that text would be too small on a 14" display, but with this "low resolution" it is actually readable.
bigger numbers are sexy, but the general world population is getting old and a lot of people wont have perfect eyesight forever.
high ppi makes text harder to read, and scaling does not work perfectly across the board (i need VMs and they dont scale with windows DPI). for this sole reason i changed my mind and now I think 1366x768 are perfectly fine for 13/14 inches.
beginner99 - Friday, May 6, 2011 - link
... they sure won't get my money with a 1366x768 display.Put in a 1600x900 (better even 1680x1050), ship it with external dvd and forget about the nvida card which is barely better than hd graphics. Fill the space with bigger battery.
Done. And it would be sold like crazy,
sheltem - Friday, May 6, 2011 - link
Seriously. Imagine if they ditched the DVD drive and were able to cram the Macbook's Radeon 6750 in there with graphics switching. And throw in the new Synaptics clickpad that allegedly isn't derp derp with multi finger gestures.ppeterka - Friday, May 6, 2011 - link
You spoke from my heart! Are you reading my thoughts or what?But seriously, this 768px vertical resolution is unacceptable by any means for anything else than watxhing video. Do people buy SB Quad Cores to watch How I met Your Mother in HD???? NO!
Wake up Neo! (Umm, this is for the notebook companies!) For anything over 12", and not in the ultracrappybudget category (for now, anything that costs $500+), this is not worth the crap the crap would crap, if it could eat and then crap it out! Working with it is nearly impossible, but highly like gripping one well-grown cactus in both hands while trying to seem happily smiling!
And optical drives are for what? Haven't used a disc in a more than a year by now (and I live in the ever-so-technically-behindered Hungary), and the last one was Fallout3, because that bitch won't run without the original disc... I won't want to lug around unuseful crap. A 6750M has a lot more uses. An even slimmer design is a lot more useful. More cooling has a lot more uses. More battery has a lot more uses. There are so many choices there are to make useful notebooks, and this one fails at an awesome number of them!
I don't blame the guys (and gals maybe) who designed it, but those who ordered that this should be designed, and even more those, who approved the design...
policeman0077 - Friday, May 6, 2011 - link
totally agree with your point. and i think the extinctive 16:10 or 4:3 screens work fine for mevon Krupp - Saturday, May 7, 2011 - link
Oh 16:10, how I miss thee...Actually, I'm still using a 5:4 1280x1024 monitor on my desktop. Am I dated yet?
ppeterka - Monday, May 9, 2011 - link
To top you: I use two of them 8 hours a day! Perfectly fine Eizo L557 displays, and I'm perfectly happy with them... If I'd feel the urge to get more pixels, I would probably convince our system admin guy to get two 1600x1200 displays for me. Though that's either a tough or an expensive task nowadays... I'd even go the pre-owned way...And yes, we might be dated. At least I'm for sure... Been sitting in front of the (various kinds of) displays since 23 years - yep, that's an awful amount of time...
16:10 is also way better than 16:9, though I like having two displays, that eases the work a lot, and I don't really like the idea of working on two wide-screens - that's just too much :)
But I could even be happy with any kinds of weirdo aspect ratios, as long as I get my daily fix of vertical pixels. Maybe we should create a petition of some kind, maybe supporting our cause with weird made up facts like manufacturing and operating 768p displays at >12" sizes kills 38,6% more baby seals than doing the same with higher resolutions...
ppeterka - Monday, May 9, 2011 - link
(Attention, webtrolls! Please be as kind as to cite only the last half of the last sentence, but at the most places you can. Be of some use at last!):D
Sebec - Friday, May 6, 2011 - link
Thanks for the article, but could you make the tables in the same style as the "AnandTech" format (i.e. like the rest of the tables on this site)? It looks pretty bad as it is.JasonInofuentes - Saturday, May 7, 2011 - link
The tables were actually part of the LG press release, and feature some unfortunate typos. I'll remember your suggestion for next time though. Thanks.xype - Friday, May 6, 2011 - link
made anyone think these were a good idea? And people keep wondering why Apple is selling laptops like crazy compared to other manufacturers? At least they compensate any potential shortcomings with great design.ekerazha - Friday, May 6, 2011 - link
I have to buy a new notebook and these LG looked nice, but I'll go for another product because I see that there isn't any USB 3.0 port. I don't change my notebook every year and a notebook without USB 3.0 is not future-proof at all.robinthakur - Friday, May 6, 2011 - link
Sue LG as well as Samsung, they are just taking the p*ss now. Is it seriously so hard for other brands to actually hire good designers and then design a concept which they can roll out to their whole line that looks good without just copy and pasting what Apple does, only worse?? Generally it looks like LG did little work to actually profile who would purchase this other than somebody who wants something that resembles a Macbook but who can't afford one....if I was in that position, these might seem attractive until the weird decision on the discrete graphics which does little besides lessening battery life. Apple must be laughing their socks off at PC laptop manufacturers.von Krupp - Saturday, May 7, 2011 - link
You do realise that LG is most likely going to charge as much as if not more than a MacBook Pro for these, yes?marc1000 - Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - link
No, they DIDN'T. I just bought a P430, and paid half of the value a MacBook costs here at brazil. we may not have all latest and greatest tech from companies, but sometimes the manufacturers are not so greedy...TrackSmart - Friday, May 6, 2011 - link
Call me crazy, but the weight of these laptops is nothing to brag about (even for a quad core Sandy Bridge machine). 1.94 kg (4.3 lbs) is 0.2 lbs lighter than the 13.3" Macbook Pro, which is an older design and was never that light to begin with.Aankhen - Sunday, May 8, 2011 - link
Might be in the market for a new laptop a few months down the line myself. It’s nice to see a sensible resolution on these. The discrete GPU seems completely redundant, though—’sup with that?marc1000 - Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - link
I just bought one, believe me: it is worth every penny. The GPU is a litle redundant, but with Optimus it wont drain your battery. And it makes the diference between being able to game "low gfx" and "medium gfx". It is not much, but it IS a little better than HD3000.(I would prefer an Ivy Bridge, as HD4000 would beat GT520, but thats not an option)
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marc1000 - Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - link
Jason Inofuentes , I know this article is a little dated, but I bought one of these and they are not QUADs. LG is using the dual-core variant of i7 (and I believe it is good, because they turbo to 3.2ghz almost all the time. this machine is fast, except from HDD department of course).