The iGPUs in Skylake, Kaby Lake and Coffe Lake are identical. Because they are the same CPUs and iGPUs with slightly different frequencies and slightly different power leakage.
Yet Skylake GPUs are limited to W10 Anniversary WDDM 2.1 while only Kaby Lake and Coffe Lake get WDDM 2.3 and Mixed Reality Support. Why? I'll never know.
So? Both Nvidia and AMD rebranded plenty og GPUs and sold them as the next generation. Intel doesn't claim the new iGPUs are some sort of never before seen GPU or massive improvement so what's the problem? Nobody's putting their hands into your pocket. So stop whining, Intel is taking great steps into improving their GPU game.
The big difference with HD 620 is that it has specific support for Microsoft PlayReady or some other part 9.5 which I assume is require for Microsoft Mixed Reality and is included in Intel Gen 9.5 GPUs
As i understood it, intel was not allowed to make new gpu's. Nvidia and amd have all the patents, and nvidia especially has most of them, so intel payed a lot of money to nvidia to be allowed to use these pattents, and actually launch a gpu. In 2015 this 5(6?) year of allowens on the patents expanded, so intel could not make any new.
This is the reason for why intel and amd have flirted with a gpu colab, for over a year.
They just a hired a new GPU head for dedicated GPUs. Makes sense to use to same architecture for iGPUs as well. But it'll probably be 2 years or more before it hits.
I know we give nvidia crap but their driver support is much better at supporting old products.
So intel is telling me that my skylale tablet is too old for this driver update? My graphics card is a full year older and it has the latest nvidia driver. Strange...
Whatever happened to Windows 10 Color Management? WFCU supposed to bring in stage 2 improvements to color management, but looks like it's been left out. Wide COlor Gamut support is useless without it.
If Intel is serious, this is the first place we should see it. Their drivers are notoriously 2nd rate, well below whatever NVDA or ATI/AMD has produced at their lowest points of driver quality. If Intel wants people to believe they are serious, they will need to show it by upping their game in this area.
Even ignoring quality, this new branch is late to the game, enabling things that NVDA/AMD were on top of well before the Windows update was release. They have quite a way to go.
3rd rate at best, maybe even worse. Ask a game developer what they think of Intel's drivers, there is a reason most games don't claim they'll run on any specific Intel iGPU in the system requirements.
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Cryio - Saturday, November 11, 2017 - link
Intel are frauds.The iGPUs in Skylake, Kaby Lake and Coffe Lake are identical. Because they are the same CPUs and iGPUs with slightly different frequencies and slightly different power leakage.
Yet Skylake GPUs are limited to W10 Anniversary WDDM 2.1 while only Kaby Lake and Coffe Lake get WDDM 2.3 and Mixed Reality Support. Why? I'll never know.
wolfemane - Saturday, November 11, 2017 - link
money money mooooonnneeyyyy!ddrіver - Sunday, November 12, 2017 - link
So? Both Nvidia and AMD rebranded plenty og GPUs and sold them as the next generation. Intel doesn't claim the new iGPUs are some sort of never before seen GPU or massive improvement so what's the problem?Nobody's putting their hands into your pocket. So stop whining, Intel is taking great steps into improving their GPU game.
ZeDestructor - Saturday, November 11, 2017 - link
And then people keep wondering why I just keep buying nVidia...HStewart - Sunday, November 12, 2017 - link
The big difference with HD 620 is that it has specific support for Microsoft PlayReady or some other part 9.5 which I assume is require for Microsoft Mixed Reality and is included in Intel Gen 9.5 GPUsWhat I don't understand why is 615 not in Gen 9.5
More information on differences of GPU
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectu...
Basic Intel needed to enhance GOU to support update
olde94 - Monday, November 13, 2017 - link
As i understood it, intel was not allowed to make new gpu's. Nvidia and amd have all the patents, and nvidia especially has most of them, so intel payed a lot of money to nvidia to be allowed to use these pattents, and actually launch a gpu. In 2015 this 5(6?) year of allowens on the patents expanded, so intel could not make any new.This is the reason for why intel and amd have flirted with a gpu colab, for over a year.
olde94 - Monday, November 13, 2017 - link
yup found it. Not quite what i remembered, but still.http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/42815-intel-...
edzieba - Saturday, November 11, 2017 - link
"But with Intel explicitly emphasizing their high-end discrete graphics endeavors as an extension of their existing iGPUs"Has it been confirmed by Intel that they are working on extending Gen rather than being a clean-sheet design (or a Xeon Phi variant)?
Frenetic Pony - Saturday, November 11, 2017 - link
They just a hired a new GPU head for dedicated GPUs. Makes sense to use to same architecture for iGPUs as well. But it'll probably be 2 years or more before it hits.HStewart - Sunday, November 12, 2017 - link
I saw something that the AMD Gpu is purchase for flutter gaming NUCI would expect with Raju we will see completely new design coming in the future
Zeratul56 - Saturday, November 11, 2017 - link
I know we give nvidia crap but their driver support is much better at supporting old products.So intel is telling me that my skylale tablet is too old for this driver update? My graphics card is a full year older and it has the latest nvidia driver. Strange...
keg504 - Sunday, November 12, 2017 - link
I still get driver updates for my GTX 560...HStewart - Sunday, November 12, 2017 - link
No. It requires something specific to gen 9.5bill44 - Saturday, November 11, 2017 - link
Whatever happened to Windows 10 Color Management?WFCU supposed to bring in stage 2 improvements to color management, but looks like it's been left out.
Wide COlor Gamut support is useless without it.
Colin1497 - Saturday, November 11, 2017 - link
If Intel is serious, this is the first place we should see it. Their drivers are notoriously 2nd rate, well below whatever NVDA or ATI/AMD has produced at their lowest points of driver quality. If Intel wants people to believe they are serious, they will need to show it by upping their game in this area.Even ignoring quality, this new branch is late to the game, enabling things that NVDA/AMD were on top of well before the Windows update was release. They have quite a way to go.
Flunk - Sunday, November 12, 2017 - link
3rd rate at best, maybe even worse. Ask a game developer what they think of Intel's drivers, there is a reason most games don't claim they'll run on any specific Intel iGPU in the system requirements.tipoo - Saturday, November 11, 2017 - link
Freesync, Intel, Freesync!