I'm at 80 GB of my 128GB phone. Though about 20 GB of that is the latest Formula 1 qualifying and race - about 10 hours of 1080p50 video. Also have another 10 GB saved on Amazon Prime to watch when I'm on the road.
I’d use it for lossless music, but I’d need >500GB for that, and with streaming I’m not sure that’s even necessary any more. But with the UK’s outstandingly patchy coverage, I’d still go for it if available on my preferred brand of phone. Upgrading phones would be a real PITA, though.
jballen - living in the UK I can't help but agree about the UKs patchy coverage. It is crazy that even in central London, you can often not get a signal inside a shop and I can't get Vodafone inside my house. And you cant even get data coverage all the way up the M1 to Sheffield. Pathetic for a supposedly first world country...
Since I generally only listen to music when driving OR near WiFi, my solution was to load a $20 128GB flash drive with FLAC files and plug it into my head unit, rather than spend $300 more for the space in my phone.
I do, on my phones and tablets. For media of course, I got 100 ebooks/comics, 4k songs, 50 movies and 10 TV series on there. I'm frequently out of data coverage in cars/trains/plane/metro, shit always seems to happen to my ADSL/Fiber (last summer, a fire cut us off for 10 days, then a cabin had it failing for 4 days out of 5), there are storms... Iv'e got guests (or worse: kids !) to entertain, whether in a plane or for a rainy week-end. I don't want to micro-manage what's on there, so I just throw in a few hours of stuff for everyone once a year (for me: my reliable comfort faves plus whatever new stuff I want to look into). I tried to make do with 64GB+64GB, I can't. I need at least a 128GB SD, and will be getting a 256GB probably for the summer holidays.
Very interesting. I did not realize people carried around quite that much media on them, but that makes sense. Thanks (to all three of you) for explaining.
My phone has a 128GB SD card in it and between books, music, photos, and videos (all 480-720p), I'm down to 38GB free. I'm waiting for the cost of 256GB cards to come down a little before buying one since there's quite a bit more I'd like to store on my phone, but keep on my laptop and an external drive. My phone is a non-contract handset so while it's inexpensive (~$7 USD per month) if I don't use it heavily, if I start burning up bandwidth moving data from someplace that isn't local, it'll get really costly really quickly. That's the biggest reason why I keep lots and lots of data on SD.
I videotape family activities in 4k@60, typically 2-5 min clips, several times a week. My 128GB iphone gets full every ~3 months, I have to transfer everything to a NAS, and clear the phone. Pretty sure next fall I will go for 512GB model.
I have a 13 month old and we always take photos and videos. I mean everyday. 128 GB fills up in a few months. A phone with bigger storage will definitely help!
Quote: "The director of the FBI says the whole of Chinese society is a threat to the US — and that Americans must step up to defend themselves"
Quote: " During Tuesday's Senate hearing, the top US intel chiefs drew attention to Chinese cybersecurity strategies.
"Frankly, the United States is under attack by entities that are using cyber to penetrate virtually every major action that takes place" within the US, Coats said.
And also:
The Worldwide Threat Assessment of the US Intelligence Community, also released Tuesday, outlines China's cyber capabilities.
"China will continue to use cyber espionage and bolster cyber attack capabilities to support national security priorities," the report says, adding that while China's cyber activity is at much lower levels than it was before September 2015, it is still threatening.
It continues: "Most detected Chinese cyber operations against US private industry are focused on cleared defense contractors or IT and communications firms whose products and services support government and private sector networks worldwide."
Pointing to the findings, several intelligence heads reaffirmed the need to beef up US counterintelligence efforts in cyber. Many identified it as one of the top priorities for the intelligence community in the coming year.
So, if these sorts of organizations / people are concerned - then so am I. So I'll pass on a Chinese phone / router / etc.
I usually stay away from conversations that have the potential to degrade into a debate about politics, but I wanted to toss in my support behind Notmyusualid. The US government has made public statements about Huawei, cautioning private citizens and businesses from purchasing their phones due to the risks. I don't know if there's any hard evidence that people can find out there in support of their claims, but the things said last month are unusually bold and unusually specific. Here's a link to a CNN article about it:
With that said, I'd personally not have any reservations about buying a Huawei phone with the right features at the right price because I don't care if someone in China knows that I'm reading a specific e-book or watching whatever on Youtube.
Owned a Huawei Nexus 6P. Never again. Phone kept turning off between 10-60% battery life. Some friends also reported it turning off even at higher percentages randomly.
No, this was a widely known issue. There are essentially no Nexus 6Ps that weren't affected by this. The batteries are crap and after about a year of use they started shutting down prematurely, especially when cold. Instead of throttling like Apple does, they just let them die and you can't restart the phone without a charger. Once you do restart it, your battery will show that you have whatever percentage left that it died on. It was bad enough that Google was giving replacements outside of warranty, and when they ran out of refurbished 6Ps to replace people's phones with they started giving people brand new Pixel XLs. Unfortunately I replaced mine a month before they started replacing with the Pixels. And guess what? My replacement started shutting down early too after about 4 months. Pretty pissed about it to be honest.
All I can think about is the shot in the Hudsucker Proxy where two people are trying to decide on a market price for the hula hoop. They had a calculated value and didn't look too happy. They added a zero and looked satisfied.
It is very difficult to justify the price point for this phone. I wonder how a much of that is for the branding.
A big issue is that the SOC on this phone isn't the best in the market. Unless that Kirin 970 can offer better than Apple SOC like performance, it really struggles to justify the price point here.
“I wonder how much is branding.” It’s a thousands dollars. Both BOMs are virtually identical with zero engineering time spent to make the spin off. This is a low effort cash grab.
They had to put the internals from one phone into another; it's somewhat more difficult than just a rehash but not as much work as a full-blown new model. It's also low volume by comparison, so there's that too.
There are more differences between the P20 Pro and Mate RS than between the Samsung S8 and S9. To say that they are basically the same phones while they look completely different, one has four times as much memory and double the fingerprint readers plus wireless charging, does not do the Mate RS any justice.
Is it too pricey? You bet! But it looks great and is the worlds first smartphone with 512 GB memory. Of course you are paying a premium.
At least there seems to be some interesting/unique adds to the phone for the price. I think you'll see them sell without a problem. Nice looking as well.
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inighthawki - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
Legitimately curious: Anyone who would use >=256GB on their phone, what do you use it for?Ian Cutress - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
I'm at 80 GB of my 128GB phone. Though about 20 GB of that is the latest Formula 1 qualifying and race - about 10 hours of 1080p50 video. Also have another 10 GB saved on Amazon Prime to watch when I'm on the road.jballen - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
I’d use it for lossless music, but I’d need >500GB for that, and with streaming I’m not sure that’s even necessary any more. But with the UK’s outstandingly patchy coverage, I’d still go for it if available on my preferred brand of phone. Upgrading phones would be a real PITA, though.Speedfriend - Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - link
jballen - living in the UK I can't help but agree about the UKs patchy coverage. It is crazy that even in central London, you can often not get a signal inside a shop and I can't get Vodafone inside my house. And you cant even get data coverage all the way up the M1 to Sheffield. Pathetic for a supposedly first world country...Yuriman - Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - link
Since I generally only listen to music when driving OR near WiFi, my solution was to load a $20 128GB flash drive with FLAC files and plug it into my head unit, rather than spend $300 more for the space in my phone.StormyParis - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
I do, on my phones and tablets. For media of course, I got 100 ebooks/comics, 4k songs, 50 movies and 10 TV series on there.I'm frequently out of data coverage in cars/trains/plane/metro, shit always seems to happen to my ADSL/Fiber (last summer, a fire cut us off for 10 days, then a cabin had it failing for 4 days out of 5), there are storms... Iv'e got guests (or worse: kids !) to entertain, whether in a plane or for a rainy week-end. I don't want to micro-manage what's on there, so I just throw in a few hours of stuff for everyone once a year (for me: my reliable comfort faves plus whatever new stuff I want to look into).
I tried to make do with 64GB+64GB, I can't. I need at least a 128GB SD, and will be getting a 256GB probably for the summer holidays.
inighthawki - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
Very interesting. I did not realize people carried around quite that much media on them, but that makes sense. Thanks (to all three of you) for explaining.aryonoco - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
Linux ISOs.Oh wait...
PeachNCream - Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - link
My phone has a 128GB SD card in it and between books, music, photos, and videos (all 480-720p), I'm down to 38GB free. I'm waiting for the cost of 256GB cards to come down a little before buying one since there's quite a bit more I'd like to store on my phone, but keep on my laptop and an external drive. My phone is a non-contract handset so while it's inexpensive (~$7 USD per month) if I don't use it heavily, if I start burning up bandwidth moving data from someplace that isn't local, it'll get really costly really quickly. That's the biggest reason why I keep lots and lots of data on SD.p1esk - Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - link
I videotape family activities in 4k@60, typically 2-5 min clips, several times a week. My 128GB iphone gets full every ~3 months, I have to transfer everything to a NAS, and clear the phone. Pretty sure next fall I will go for 512GB model.peevee - Thursday, March 29, 2018 - link
A microSD card would be so much cheaper.StevoLincolnite - Wednesday, April 4, 2018 - link
I have a 32GB Note 5.I do the exact same thing as you...
Except when I record or take a photo it is uploaded to my online storage... And then downloaded to my NAS. Automagically, no input required.
Of course having 80Mbps mobile speeds helps a ton.
Cliff34 - Sunday, April 1, 2018 - link
I have a 13 month old and we always take photos and videos. I mean everyday. 128 GB fills up in a few months. A phone with bigger storage will definitely help!jballen - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
As used on Porsche cars, “RS” stands for “Rennsport”, which is Gernan for “racing”.joex4444 - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
Does Huawei still spy on Americans?StormyParis - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
Have they ever ? Source ?Notmyusualid - Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - link
Quote: "The director of the FBI says the whole of Chinese society is a threat to the US — and that Americans must step up to defend themselves"Quote: " During Tuesday's Senate hearing, the top US intel chiefs drew attention to Chinese cybersecurity strategies.
"Frankly, the United States is under attack by entities that are using cyber to penetrate virtually every major action that takes place" within the US, Coats said.
And also:
The Worldwide Threat Assessment of the US Intelligence Community, also released Tuesday, outlines China's cyber capabilities.
"China will continue to use cyber espionage and bolster cyber attack capabilities to support national security priorities," the report says, adding that while China's cyber activity is at much lower levels than it was before September 2015, it is still threatening.
It continues: "Most detected Chinese cyber operations against US private industry are focused on cleared defense contractors or IT and communications firms whose products and services support government and private sector networks worldwide."
Pointing to the findings, several intelligence heads reaffirmed the need to beef up US counterintelligence efforts in cyber. Many identified it as one of the top priorities for the intelligence community in the coming year.
So, if these sorts of organizations / people are concerned - then so am I. So I'll pass on a Chinese phone / router / etc.
Still a nice handset though...
Hurr Durr - Thursday, March 29, 2018 - link
"US Intelligence Community" is beyond joke now. FBI director is in an open mutiny against his elected President.Yet you choose to worry about chinamen.
watzupken - Tuesday, April 3, 2018 - link
To be fair, I don't think US is that clean either when it comes to security(think NSA). It is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.PeachNCream - Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - link
I usually stay away from conversations that have the potential to degrade into a debate about politics, but I wanted to toss in my support behind Notmyusualid. The US government has made public statements about Huawei, cautioning private citizens and businesses from purchasing their phones due to the risks. I don't know if there's any hard evidence that people can find out there in support of their claims, but the things said last month are unusually bold and unusually specific. Here's a link to a CNN article about it:http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/14/technology/huawei-...
With that said, I'd personally not have any reservations about buying a Huawei phone with the right features at the right price because I don't care if someone in China knows that I'm reading a specific e-book or watching whatever on Youtube.
feelingshorter - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
Owned a Huawei Nexus 6P. Never again. Phone kept turning off between 10-60% battery life. Some friends also reported it turning off even at higher percentages randomly.Ukyo - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
Got a free PXL off the 6P so I don't feel as burned... lolIan Cutress - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
Used Mate S, Mate 8, and Mate 9, all without critical issues. Sometimes your lemon is just a lemon.feelingshorter - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
Not according to Android Police https://www.androidpolice.com/2016/12/20/some-nexu...That is to many lemons to be considered normal.
ezridah - Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - link
No, this was a widely known issue. There are essentially no Nexus 6Ps that weren't affected by this. The batteries are crap and after about a year of use they started shutting down prematurely, especially when cold. Instead of throttling like Apple does, they just let them die and you can't restart the phone without a charger. Once you do restart it, your battery will show that you have whatever percentage left that it died on. It was bad enough that Google was giving replacements outside of warranty, and when they ran out of refurbished 6Ps to replace people's phones with they started giving people brand new Pixel XLs. Unfortunately I replaced mine a month before they started replacing with the Pixels. And guess what? My replacement started shutting down early too after about 4 months. Pretty pissed about it to be honest.Dr. Swag - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
2880x1440 6 in. OLED display? I smell an LG pOLED panel, and on a $2000+ smartphone that is NOT a good thing...vladx - Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - link
Nope, it uses OLED manufactured by JDI not LG.willis936 - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
All I can think about is the shot in the Hudsucker Proxy where two people are trying to decide on a market price for the hula hoop. They had a calculated value and didn't look too happy. They added a zero and looked satisfied.jjj - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
But i don't want exhaust fumes in my pocket and I prefer EVs anyway. Do they have a Marlboro version too?Lolimaster - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
Should come with 5 1:18 high quality Porsche models.CrazyElf - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
It is very difficult to justify the price point for this phone. I wonder how a much of that is for the branding.A big issue is that the SOC on this phone isn't the best in the market. Unless that Kirin 970 can offer better than Apple SOC like performance, it really struggles to justify the price point here.
willis936 - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link
“I wonder how much is branding.”It’s a thousands dollars. Both BOMs are virtually identical with zero engineering time spent to make the spin off. This is a low effort cash grab.
Ian Cutress - Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - link
They had to put the internals from one phone into another; it's somewhat more difficult than just a rehash but not as much work as a full-blown new model. It's also low volume by comparison, so there's that too.MarcTGFG - Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - link
There are more differences between the P20 Pro and Mate RS than between the Samsung S8 and S9. To say that they are basically the same phones while they look completely different, one has four times as much memory and double the fingerprint readers plus wireless charging, does not do the Mate RS any justice.Is it too pricey? You bet! But it looks great and is the worlds first smartphone with 512 GB memory. Of course you are paying a premium.
jabber - Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - link
Would buy for...£500!vortmax2 - Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - link
At least there seems to be some interesting/unique adds to the phone for the price. I think you'll see them sell without a problem. Nice looking as well.Ferrynthia - Sunday, April 1, 2018 - link
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