Do we know yet what decent DVD+9 media is going to cost? I'm already seeing slower +9 compatible drives at places like NewEgg for $89; I really don't care about 12x or 16x speed so much as reliability at this point, especially in a part that costs so little.
I use the word perfectly fine, especially in the context here where I was referring to an oriental language depicted in one of the screen captures. Pretty sad that even on a tech site people like you can't just stick to the topic, but rather flame others. I may have asked if someone was blind, but it was a retorical question. The fact you think that you know every use of the word oriental and use that as a basis for you to argue is truly sad and without any merit to me or anyone else reading these comments.
tfranzese calm down, you sound like an ignorant ass... For your information, you don't call people Oriental, you call objects related to those people Oriental... Maybe you need to pick up a dictionary...
#18, stfu prick. If you can't discern between a rug and a persons ethnicity then that's not my problem, last I checked oriental people were not known as rugs.
As for bashing, no one was being bashed - only cited as inobservant. Get a life and pick up a dictionary while you're at it.
CD or not, I hope cartridge requirements take off. Thanks to the stupid cost cutting manufacturers, the average CDs not only waste half of recordable surface, but makes the product less reliable. Worse yet, it isn't required for DVD, making handling of dual side DVD a hassle, and thus unpopular. Such cost cutting measures should have been banned 20 years ago when first CD is made.
Truth be told, #12, I really hope BluRay takes off because of the cartridges. While I'll agree they're more of a hassle, as we've seen before, DVDs are rather delicate, even compared to CD's. While they still hold up relatively well, there are a lot of scratched discs out there that aren't 100% usable, and that's a problem. While more error correction could also reduce(but not really solve) the problem, more ECC bits means less space for actual data, so a cartridge is ideal from that perspective. With discs approaching 25GB, a scratch that can wipe out a couple of gigabytes is rather on the dangerous side, I believe.
At least in a cartridge it probably has a longer life than DVD's because just a micor scratch on a DVD can reder it useless. I would think being in a cartridge would eliminate that chance greatly.
I really hope Blu-Ray doesn't make it. I hate cartridges, and it just sounds bad. At least with HD you know people will still be able to use regular DVD's and probably CD's still. Blu-Ray throws all of that out, for miniscule gains.
These new faster DVD recorders sound great...but the Media industry is sadly lagging in the support of new techlonogies...hell...the 8X burners have been on the market for a year and you can still hardly find and 8X media.
The whole upcoming Blu-Ray/HD-DVD battle really scares me. This one won't be like CD+R/CD-R, which were different standards but at least they can use the same laser. The two new DVD standards cannot. One will have to win the battle quickly or were all going to be screwed. Is anybody else as scared about this as I am?
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tfranzese - Sunday, June 13, 2004 - link
How much faster will DL get? Will it be down to 10 min burn times eventually?MIDIman - Sunday, June 13, 2004 - link
I heard along the rumor mill that a Philips HD-DVD drive was already on the market. Anyone have a link?KristopherKubicki - Sunday, June 13, 2004 - link
artifex: Verbatim DVDR+9 media costs about $5 a disc right now. I bet 12 months from now it will be around $1 per disc.Kristopher
artifex - Sunday, June 13, 2004 - link
Okay, to get back on topic:Do we know yet what decent DVD+9 media is going to cost? I'm already seeing slower +9 compatible drives at places like NewEgg for $89; I really don't care about 12x or 16x speed so much as reliability at this point, especially in a part that costs so little.
tfranzese - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
I don't see how it is and this is definately news to me if so."You used the word oriental not to refer to the words on the screen, you used it to say Kris is oriental... You are an idiot... "
Not quite, but if you're this critical of language use on the internet you're a sad person.
sisq0kidd - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
The thing that bothers me about your use of it is, Oriental is derogatory when you call someone Oriental...sisq0kidd - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
"#14, are you blind? I don't think Kris is oriental."You used the word oriental not to refer to the words on the screen, you used it to say Kris is oriental... You are an idiot...
tfranzese - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
Ignorant? No, you just seem to think you know it all.http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Oriental
I use the word perfectly fine, especially in the context here where I was referring to an oriental language depicted in one of the screen captures. Pretty sad that even on a tech site people like you can't just stick to the topic, but rather flame others. I may have asked if someone was blind, but it was a retorical question. The fact you think that you know every use of the word oriental and use that as a basis for you to argue is truly sad and without any merit to me or anyone else reading these comments.
sisq0kidd - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
tfranzese calm down, you sound like an ignorant ass... For your information, you don't call people Oriental, you call objects related to those people Oriental... Maybe you need to pick up a dictionary...tfranzese - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
#18, stfu prick. If you can't discern between a rug and a persons ethnicity then that's not my problem, last I checked oriental people were not known as rugs.As for bashing, no one was being bashed - only cited as inobservant. Get a life and pick up a dictionary while you're at it.
quanta - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
CD or not, I hope cartridge requirements take off. Thanks to the stupid cost cutting manufacturers, the average CDs not only waste half of recordable surface, but makes the product less reliable. Worse yet, it isn't required for DVD, making handling of dual side DVD a hassle, and thus unpopular. Such cost cutting measures should have been banned 20 years ago when first CD is made.sisq0kidd - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
tfranzese, oriental is what you call a rug, not people... if you're gonna bash someone, do it with the correct information...tfranzese - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
#14, are you blind? I don't think Kris is oriental.ViRGE - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
Truth be told, #12, I really hope BluRay takes off because of the cartridges. While I'll agree they're more of a hassle, as we've seen before, DVDs are rather delicate, even compared to CD's. While they still hold up relatively well, there are a lot of scratched discs out there that aren't 100% usable, and that's a problem. While more error correction could also reduce(but not really solve) the problem, more ECC bits means less space for actual data, so a cartridge is ideal from that perspective. With discs approaching 25GB, a scratch that can wipe out a couple of gigabytes is rather on the dangerous side, I believe.bbomb - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
At least in a cartridge it probably has a longer life than DVD's because just a micor scratch on a DVD can reder it useless. I would think being in a cartridge would eliminate that chance greatly.Pollock - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
May I ask why screenshots were taken with a camera, and not by hitting Print Screen?Brickster - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
Kristopher!Loved the article, especially the title! You should be a writer ;)
-brick
tappertrainman - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
I really hope Blu-Ray doesn't make it. I hate cartridges, and it just sounds bad. At least with HD you know people will still be able to use regular DVD's and probably CD's still. Blu-Ray throws all of that out, for miniscule gains.KristopherKubicki - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
7: MSI has an unbridged SATA burner; unfortunately it only works with the ICH5/ICH6 southbridge SATA (for now). :'(Kristopher
AlexWade - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
Shouldn't the title of the article be "Everything you've ever owned is obselete". Or better yet "Even though you just bought it, it is obselete".deathwalker - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
These new faster DVD recorders sound great...but the Media industry is sadly lagging in the support of new techlonogies...hell...the 8X burners have been on the market for a year and you can still hardly find and 8X media.Gage8 - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
Good thing I never bought a DVD burner :)RyanVM - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
Anybody but Plextor working on a native SATA writer?MaximillianSterling - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
The whole upcoming Blu-Ray/HD-DVD battle really scares me. This one won't be like CD+R/CD-R, which were different standards but at least they can use the same laser. The two new DVD standards cannot. One will have to win the battle quickly or were all going to be screwed. Is anybody else as scared about this as I am?LazyBoyTony - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
I'm still heavily disappointed at the lack of 8x media.... it'll be months before 12x and dual layer hits the streets..... *sigh*mkruer - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
Crap... Im going to have to find more porn so i can fill up the entire disk. LOLcrazycarl - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
sccreeeeeeeechskunkbuster - Thursday, June 10, 2004 - link
beep beepApologiliac - Thursday, June 10, 2004 - link
Vroooooom.