Assuming that’s a VGA port, surprised there are no COM or parallel ports. I would think a big draw to something like this is lots of legacy I/O support, tied to old OS’s and associated legacy software.
Most of people I know have 2/3/4 gen laptop as legacy device that's currently running netflix or just as backup device. But if you have old PC somewhere, replace one dead part, throw ssd, and it even still CAN play some basic games. Aas almost nothing changed on intel front since then it might be a nice idea to get working PC for 100$
I think they were more talking about industrial/embedded environments where Legacy I/O is critical for communicating with old, but functional, hardware.
CPU requirements have not really changed much since Ivy Bridge was new. With the right graphics card, most modern titles should run well enough. That may not be the case after the next console generation comes out since we will probably see a system requirements increase that follows when games start getting ported over to the PC, but for the time being, an old Ivy Bridge quad core ought to be fast enough to play lots more than "basic games" if that's your thing for this sort of product.
My brother is still on an i7 2600k (4.5ghz overclock). He has a secondhand 1070 8GB card in there. Upgraded to 32GB DDR3 and a Samsung 860 Evo SSD some years ago. He can run all the latest games fine at 1080p at medium to high settings.
I forgot to add when he first got the system it had 8GB DDR3, a 7200rpm HD, and a 1GB video card. Upgrading a few components for cheap and the system still runs like a champ.
If it runs Windows XP (which I assume it does), then it has a niche indeed. And given how dirt cheap DDR3 RAM is, it might not even be a bad financial deal if you can't virtualize/upgrade whatever rund Windows XP.
1 slot longer than mITX is the mDTX standard. It is (was?) popular with OEMs making SFF towers; typically sized to only support half height PCIe cards.
mDTX was always a bit of an odd and lesser known standard. I would think that Ian is aware that there is a standard and was writing for an audience that was less likely to be aware of it which would make comparing it to mITX a better fit to describe the physical size.
I wonder if that's in any way related to Intel un-EOLing the Haswell Intel’s Pentium G3420? Not sure if the H61 is compatible with that though since I think it's one generation off?
The only application I see for this is for commercial or industrial infrastructure.
For less important applications one can find used Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge computers for less than $50, some of which are equipped with quad core CPUs.
This board would be awesome if it has a 12v or 18.5v DC IN connector, allowing you to power a system from a laptop adapter style power supply and a M.2 connector (even if it had only 2 pci-e lanes). With 12v DC IN, they would only have to add a couple regulators, to get 5v and 3.3v for the sata drives and a potential m.2 connector, and add a power connector for the sata drives.
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flgt - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
Assuming that’s a VGA port, surprised there are no COM or parallel ports. I would think a big draw to something like this is lots of legacy I/O support, tied to old OS’s and associated legacy software.deil - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
Most of people I know have 2/3/4 gen laptop as legacy device that's currently running netflix or just as backup device. But if you have old PC somewhere, replace one dead part, throw ssd, and it even still CAN play some basic games.Aas almost nothing changed on intel front since then it might be a nice idea to get working PC for 100$
SaberKOG91 - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
I think they were more talking about industrial/embedded environments where Legacy I/O is critical for communicating with old, but functional, hardware.PeachNCream - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
CPU requirements have not really changed much since Ivy Bridge was new. With the right graphics card, most modern titles should run well enough. That may not be the case after the next console generation comes out since we will probably see a system requirements increase that follows when games start getting ported over to the PC, but for the time being, an old Ivy Bridge quad core ought to be fast enough to play lots more than "basic games" if that's your thing for this sort of product.Shlong - Monday, March 2, 2020 - link
My brother is still on an i7 2600k (4.5ghz overclock). He has a secondhand 1070 8GB card in there. Upgraded to 32GB DDR3 and a Samsung 860 Evo SSD some years ago. He can run all the latest games fine at 1080p at medium to high settings.Shlong - Monday, March 2, 2020 - link
I forgot to add when he first got the system it had 8GB DDR3, a 7200rpm HD, and a 1GB video card. Upgrading a few components for cheap and the system still runs like a champ.29a - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
It has a header for a COM port.evilspoons - Friday, February 28, 2020 - link
Yeah, it's above the end of the x16 slot, below the heatsink. J_COM1. Even my (still ticking) high end ASUS P8Z68-V PRO has one.MenhirMike - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
If it runs Windows XP (which I assume it does), then it has a niche indeed. And given how dirt cheap DDR3 RAM is, it might not even be a bad financial deal if you can't virtualize/upgrade whatever rund Windows XP.PandaBear - Friday, September 25, 2020 - link
We already have USB to UART adapter, so that's not a big deal really. Same for parallel ports and EIDE, they all have adapter if they need to.FreckledTrout - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
The color scheme reminds me of an old DFI LANParty motherboard. They went proper retro on it ;)yetanotherhuman - Friday, February 28, 2020 - link
DFI. Now we're talking.Now we just need Abit back, and we're golden.
Koenig168 - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
Might prove quite popular as a means to repurpose legacy parts for a HT or homework rig.DanNeely - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
1 slot longer than mITX is the mDTX standard. It is (was?) popular with OEMs making SFF towers; typically sized to only support half height PCIe cards.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTX_(form_factor)
Slash3 - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
Asus' X570 based ROG Crosshair VIII Impact being a good current example of a Mini-DTX board.https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-Crosshair...
PeachNCream - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
mDTX was always a bit of an odd and lesser known standard. I would think that Ian is aware that there is a standard and was writing for an audience that was less likely to be aware of it which would make comparing it to mITX a better fit to describe the physical size.MenhirMike - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
I wonder if that's in any way related to Intel un-EOLing the Haswell Intel’s Pentium G3420? Not sure if the H61 is compatible with that though since I think it's one generation off?https://www.anandtech.com/show/15211/intel-undisco...
MikeMurphy - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge were compatible. The Haswell chips are not compatible.MikeMurphy - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
The only application I see for this is for commercial or industrial infrastructure.For less important applications one can find used Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge computers for less than $50, some of which are equipped with quad core CPUs.
What a time to be alive.
CyrIng - Friday, February 28, 2020 - link
It's a good initiative against the electronical waste of unused componentsI wish the same for the LGA1366 NHM, WSM
mariush - Saturday, February 29, 2020 - link
This board would be awesome if it has a 12v or 18.5v DC IN connector, allowing you to power a system from a laptop adapter style power supply and a M.2 connector (even if it had only 2 pci-e lanes).With 12v DC IN, they would only have to add a couple regulators, to get 5v and 3.3v for the sata drives and a potential m.2 connector, and add a power connector for the sata drives.
umano - Tuesday, March 3, 2020 - link
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tractor71 - Saturday, April 25, 2020 - link
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