Qualcomm's power efficiency has seemed pretty anemic recently. The 865 integrated 5G, which was good, but then they released the 865+, the 888, the 870, and the 888+...
AFAIK, the 865 still had the 5G modem separately (not on-die). I believe the 870, the 888 and the newer 700 Series SoCs have their 5G modems integrated.
This doesn't make sense on 5LPE. Higher levels of performance will give rise to thermal issues but as thermal issues must be controlled the probable outcome is just more processor throttling rather than notable performance gains. Could this SoC be meant for devices that consume more energy than mobile phones (and that can manage/dissipate more heat)? Hmm...I doubt it.
That would be unlikely. While repurposed mobile SoCs based on ARM IP might continue to be used in entry level notebooks, viz. in inexpensive and lower performing Windows on ARM PCs and Chromebooks, Qualcomm will be offering NUVIA custom silicon for premium ARM notebooks, ACPCs and Chromebooks.
That said, it wouldn't shock me to see Samsung using the Snapdragon 888+ on a high end tablet, say - something to replace the aging Snapdragon 8cx is needed as a tide over until NUVIA silicon lands or something else of that ilk comes along.
The adreno in 888 feels like same gpu with 865 , they just overclock it. You can see same performance figure with 865 when they throttled down to their sustained performance, heck even the 870 can neck to neck with 888. The reason for 888+ with same gpu clock with 888 is clear, they can not overclock it as the gpu in 888 is the same gpu in 865 overclocked with Variable Rate Shading feature which i believe can also be implemented in the 865. In the end the upgrade from 865 to 888 is in the processor , ISP and AI performance
2.995 GHz? You know how hard QC and Samsung must have tried to get to and over the 3 GHz mark, but it just wouldn't happen (: On a more serious note, does this also reflect that Samsung's "5 nm" has reached more maturity?
Also, maybe QC thought that Samsung's big Exynos was getting uncomfortably close in performance to the regular 888. And Samsung wants to hang on to their key "5 nm" customer to keep the foundries booked
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nandnandnand - Monday, June 28, 2021 - link
Samsung 3GAE = 3.5 GHz phoneWereweeb - Tuesday, June 29, 2021 - link
I'd rather have a phone which doesn't cook it's own battery, thank you very much.nandnandnand - Wednesday, June 30, 2021 - link
My guesstimate might reduce power consumption. Plus they only need to make 1 core really fast, not all 8.caribbeanblue - Monday, July 26, 2021 - link
That would probably be a clock speed improvement without changing the power consumption, thanks to the newer process.iphonebestgamephone - Monday, June 28, 2021 - link
5% more performance at just 10% more power! Awesomeshabby - Monday, June 28, 2021 - link
They're taking cues from intel.Unashamed_unoriginal_username_x86 - Monday, June 28, 2021 - link
Qualcomm's power efficiency has seemed pretty anemic recently. The 865 integrated 5G, which was good, but then they released the 865+, the 888, the 870, and the 888+...eastcoast_pete - Tuesday, June 29, 2021 - link
AFAIK, the 865 still had the 5G modem separately (not on-die). I believe the 870, the 888 and the newer 700 Series SoCs have their 5G modems integrated.ChrisGX - Monday, June 28, 2021 - link
This doesn't make sense on 5LPE. Higher levels of performance will give rise to thermal issues but as thermal issues must be controlled the probable outcome is just more processor throttling rather than notable performance gains. Could this SoC be meant for devices that consume more energy than mobile phones (and that can manage/dissipate more heat)? Hmm...I doubt it.eastcoast_pete - Tuesday, June 29, 2021 - link
If QC feels like releasing the 888 for Chromebooks etc, that could actually be and make sense.ChrisGX - Wednesday, July 7, 2021 - link
That would be unlikely. While repurposed mobile SoCs based on ARM IP might continue to be used in entry level notebooks, viz. in inexpensive and lower performing Windows on ARM PCs and Chromebooks, Qualcomm will be offering NUVIA custom silicon for premium ARM notebooks, ACPCs and Chromebooks.That said, it wouldn't shock me to see Samsung using the Snapdragon 888+ on a high end tablet, say - something to replace the aging Snapdragon 8cx is needed as a tide over until NUVIA silicon lands or something else of that ilk comes along.
name99 - Monday, June 28, 2021 - link
And once again QC shows us that it knows nothing about branding.The obvious name for this core is NOT 888+, it is 888∞ !
Goddamnit, QC, get your act together!!!
Midioni2 - Monday, June 28, 2021 - link
The adreno in 888 feels like same gpu with 865 , they just overclock it. You can see same performance figure with 865 when they throttled down to their sustained performance, heck even the 870 can neck to neck with 888. The reason for 888+ with same gpu clock with 888 is clear, they can not overclock it as the gpu in 888 is the same gpu in 865 overclocked with Variable Rate Shading feature which i believe can also be implemented in the 865. In the end the upgrade from 865 to 888 is in the processor , ISP and AI performanceeastcoast_pete - Tuesday, June 29, 2021 - link
2.995 GHz? You know how hard QC and Samsung must have tried to get to and over the 3 GHz mark, but it just wouldn't happen (:On a more serious note, does this also reflect that Samsung's "5 nm" has reached more maturity?
eastcoast_pete - Tuesday, June 29, 2021 - link
Also, maybe QC thought that Samsung's big Exynos was getting uncomfortably close in performance to the regular 888. And Samsung wants to hang on to their key "5 nm" customer to keep the foundries bookeddimacia1 - Friday, October 22, 2021 - link
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