Assuming you don’t know what this board is for, the people buying this have no intrest in running more than 2 DIMMs and in fact it’s a feature of the board lol.
I know what it's for, OC competitions, a niche of a niche of a niche market. Outside of the couple of hundred people in the entire world who would actually want AND know how to use something like this, it serves absolutely no purpose and is in fact a detriment to any real world use case.
I'm not trying to shit on people's hobbies, gods know I've dumped a ton of cash into my 4x4 that I'll never see back in resale value. I just find it hilarious that a $700 board that is intended for OC competitions even has things like SATA and WiFi, I'm guessing so they can fool ordinary power users into thinking it's good for a daily driver, and yet they gimp the RAM slots for daily use. They wanted this board to appeal to two completely different markets at the same time and they look stupid for it.
Complaining about 2 DIMM slots on a board that is designed to take advantage of only 2 DIMM slots demonstrates how clueless you are about the target market of the board. You might as well start complaining how a Miata can only carry 2 passengers...
I've already acknowledged the target market, but to go with your (inevitably bad) car-computer analogy, my point was that EVGA is attempting to market this board not only to ricers, but also to those looking for a practical daily driver. That's what I'm calling out here.
And FYI, if you're going to compare a car to an overclocking-friendly motherboard designed to set records, you might want to learn a little more about cars. The Miata is one of the slowest "sports cars" out there. Who is the clueless one here?
Given the purpose of this board is to run an absurd amount of power to your CPU for XOC not running complex rendering work loads that hammer the chipset transmitting data it makes sense .
The chipset is likely going to get plenty of cooling from case airflow, especially considering the surface area of the heatsink. If a video card is installed, it will also blow down onto the chipset heatsink as well, assuming it isn't a blower style card - which I might as well point out are no longer made.
The major issue is price increase vs Z590 DARK. Which has bigger and beefier heatsink and extra phases with one more M.2 SSD slot. However this one has full PCIe 4.0 for the whole PCIe buses vs Z590's M.2 limitation. That said, this is $700 board, too much for the bare minimum I/O on the rear - USB, no 10G LAN. Finally will this have X570S chipset ? I suppose not. Unfortunate since X570s still have issues with USB.
Still will be interested in this board as a top end AM4 which can run Windows 7 and do solid OC.
Because I like that OS a lot and it works on almost all games that I have on my HDDs. Plus it doesn't have annoying updates or borked issues. And It looks much better than Win10, 11. Only will use Win10 LTSC as a dual boot option.
Because the cash they are asking, this board doesn't compete with Crosshair VIII Dark Hero but Extreme, which is just $100 extra and you get 2x TB4, 10GLAN and better VRMs. X570 Xtreme is literally same cost and it has 4 DIMM Slots, 10G LAN and not a buggy trash ALC4082 like ASUS or newer mobos and has a ton of I/O ports as well and extra M.2 SSD option too.
This is not the board for you, if you want tb4 and other connectivity stuff go for asrock or asus. This board is for people that want to put LN2 pots on and break world records the board is designed for Xtreme OC in every way possible.
Stop staying the same thing that I heard over and over all over the damn place. I know about EVGA DARK I don't even want a crappy TB4 controller because it delays POST. The price is too high and AM4 is already short of EOL, Zen 4 is pegged at Q3-4 Zen3D is only thing left and there's no guarantee how it will OC given the extra Silicon and the Zen 3 doesn't reward OC in Memory nor in high clock speed unlike 10900K.
LN2 pot you say, then why EVGA boards are even selling and why people are not just using LN2 pots and break records but rather end up in a Corsair 5000D cases and custom loops and air cooled rigs at EVGA forum ?
The board is insanely expensive for it's mediocre USB ports, I/O, M.2 Drives, even DIMM, Ryzen doesn't get well with Dual Rank kits unlike Intel. And it's better to put 4x8GB 4000MHz C15 G.Skill on this at 3800MHz tops stable which is very hard already for Zen 3 IMC to handle.
if you heard the same thing over and over again maybe it's the truth, ever it crossed your mind ? Zen 3 is far from EOL, EOL usually can take place several years from the point the product is being replaced by newer one. and even if we get zen 4 at q 3-4 this is 1 year from now and that is a lot of time for the people the board is aimed for. OC on zen 3 does give you added performance like also memory OC but you need to tweak the settings (like the infinity fabric clock) for getting the optimal results.
If you ask about all EVGA boards in general not all of them are designed for extreme OC. this boards does and you can see in all the features and aspects of this board, people can use EVGA boards as they like and EVGA won't stop them since in the end their boards they can do whatever they like but this board while it can be used for 24/7 rigs its features and design philosophy was aimed for Xtreme OC. the boards is expensive for different aspects (form USB headers or gazilion m.2 slots) like the triple bios, probe it connector, slow-mod switch, SLI support, better telemetry, massive heatsink, power delivery design, board layout etc etc. the 2 DIMM desgin is for more optimal memory pathway which allows faster clocks again Xtreme OC feature. If you ever going to do Xtreme OC you will understand why this board is well fitted for Xtreme OC and where its price comes from. as I said this board is not for you it's for people who appreciate these features.
Only people who are either hardcore fanboys or shills do that sort of crap. Ryzen doesn't have any OC potential. That's a known fact and it reaches instability with a lot of memory issues on top. This board is nothing special. OCers like Buildzoid and Luumi use MSI X570 Unify on LN2, you can keep doing the PR service.
This board doesn't deserve that price tag. No matter what, there are boards like GB Xtreme which have even bigger VRMs and Heatsinks than this. DARK is the only Xtreme OC why is this priced more than Z590 DARK ? When the Z590 infact has more HS, More VRMs, More M.2 slots, 20gbps USB port on rear ? Yeah some magical BS they are only doing this because of demand of X570 boards and that's it. Nothing else. This is a rip off of the X570. It doesn't even have damn backplate at such high cost.
And all that said, I'm interested in this board because of BIOS and expecting no USB issues not your PR kerfuffle BS.
I have an EVGA Z270 board which has been fairly solid, but I wish EVGA supported their boards a little bit more. Their BIOS updates stop coming pretty quickly compared to other vendors like Asus, and mine hasn't had an intel security update since 2019, or about 1.5 years after release. Asus and other vendors seem to provide support much longer and I can't see myself going with EVGA over one of them anytime soon because of that.
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Leeea - Thursday, September 23, 2021 - link
So basically,If you have a LN pot this is useful
and for the rest of us it is useless.
kaidenshi - Thursday, September 23, 2021 - link
Nearly $700 for a E-ATX board...with only two DIMM slots. Useless doesn't even begin to cover it.Dromic - Thursday, September 23, 2021 - link
Assuming you don’t know what this board is for, the people buying this have no intrest in running more than 2 DIMMs and in fact it’s a feature of the board lol.kaidenshi - Friday, September 24, 2021 - link
I know what it's for, OC competitions, a niche of a niche of a niche market. Outside of the couple of hundred people in the entire world who would actually want AND know how to use something like this, it serves absolutely no purpose and is in fact a detriment to any real world use case.I'm not trying to shit on people's hobbies, gods know I've dumped a ton of cash into my 4x4 that I'll never see back in resale value. I just find it hilarious that a $700 board that is intended for OC competitions even has things like SATA and WiFi, I'm guessing so they can fool ordinary power users into thinking it's good for a daily driver, and yet they gimp the RAM slots for daily use. They wanted this board to appeal to two completely different markets at the same time and they look stupid for it.
FreckledTrout - Friday, September 24, 2021 - link
They are only trying to appeal to one market when they priced it at $700.Samus - Tuesday, September 28, 2021 - link
Complaining about 2 DIMM slots on a board that is designed to take advantage of only 2 DIMM slots demonstrates how clueless you are about the target market of the board. You might as well start complaining how a Miata can only carry 2 passengers...kaidenshi - Wednesday, September 29, 2021 - link
I've already acknowledged the target market, but to go with your (inevitably bad) car-computer analogy, my point was that EVGA is attempting to market this board not only to ricers, but also to those looking for a practical daily driver. That's what I'm calling out here.And FYI, if you're going to compare a car to an overclocking-friendly motherboard designed to set records, you might want to learn a little more about cars. The Miata is one of the slowest "sports cars" out there. Who is the clueless one here?
Oxford Guy - Saturday, October 2, 2021 - link
The second-gen Miata was the fastest in an urban speed test, making it the best get-away car in terms of quickness/nimbleness.meacupla - Friday, September 24, 2021 - link
It only has 2 DIMM slots to keep traces short. Short traces between CPU and RAM are a good feature when OC'ing RAM.The_Assimilator - Thursday, September 23, 2021 - link
A fanless chipset heatsink... with fans on the VRMs... facepalm.Silver5urfer - Thursday, September 23, 2021 - link
Those VRM fans are overkill for this motherboard. It should be able to handle if we turn off the VRM HS fans.Dromic - Thursday, September 23, 2021 - link
Given the purpose of this board is to run an absurd amount of power to your CPU for XOC not running complex rendering work loads that hammer the chipset transmitting data it makes sense .FreckledTrout - Friday, September 24, 2021 - link
Yeah the choices they made are spot on for trying to hit world record OC's. Those same choices are terrible for pretty much any other use case.Samus - Tuesday, September 28, 2021 - link
The chipset is likely going to get plenty of cooling from case airflow, especially considering the surface area of the heatsink. If a video card is installed, it will also blow down onto the chipset heatsink as well, assuming it isn't a blower style card - which I might as well point out are no longer made.Silver5urfer - Thursday, September 23, 2021 - link
The major issue is price increase vs Z590 DARK. Which has bigger and beefier heatsink and extra phases with one more M.2 SSD slot. However this one has full PCIe 4.0 for the whole PCIe buses vs Z590's M.2 limitation. That said, this is $700 board, too much for the bare minimum I/O on the rear - USB, no 10G LAN. Finally will this have X570S chipset ? I suppose not. Unfortunate since X570s still have issues with USB.Still will be interested in this board as a top end AM4 which can run Windows 7 and do solid OC.
timecop1818 - Thursday, September 23, 2021 - link
Windows.... 7? why?Silver5urfer - Thursday, September 23, 2021 - link
Because I like that OS a lot and it works on almost all games that I have on my HDDs. Plus it doesn't have annoying updates or borked issues. And It looks much better than Win10, 11. Only will use Win10 LTSC as a dual boot option.Dromic - Thursday, September 23, 2021 - link
Why ???? Why would you have 10G on an HCO board lolSilver5urfer - Thursday, September 23, 2021 - link
Because the cash they are asking, this board doesn't compete with Crosshair VIII Dark Hero but Extreme, which is just $100 extra and you get 2x TB4, 10GLAN and better VRMs. X570 Xtreme is literally same cost and it has 4 DIMM Slots, 10G LAN and not a buggy trash ALC4082 like ASUS or newer mobos and has a ton of I/O ports as well and extra M.2 SSD option too.Eliadbu - Friday, September 24, 2021 - link
This is not the board for you, if you want tb4 and other connectivity stuff go for asrock or asus. This board is for people that want to put LN2 pots on and break world records the board is designed for Xtreme OC in every way possible.Silver5urfer - Friday, September 24, 2021 - link
Stop staying the same thing that I heard over and over all over the damn place. I know about EVGA DARK I don't even want a crappy TB4 controller because it delays POST. The price is too high and AM4 is already short of EOL, Zen 4 is pegged at Q3-4 Zen3D is only thing left and there's no guarantee how it will OC given the extra Silicon and the Zen 3 doesn't reward OC in Memory nor in high clock speed unlike 10900K.LN2 pot you say, then why EVGA boards are even selling and why people are not just using LN2 pots and break records but rather end up in a Corsair 5000D cases and custom loops and air cooled rigs at EVGA forum ?
The board is insanely expensive for it's mediocre USB ports, I/O, M.2 Drives, even DIMM, Ryzen doesn't get well with Dual Rank kits unlike Intel. And it's better to put 4x8GB 4000MHz C15 G.Skill on this at 3800MHz tops stable which is very hard already for Zen 3 IMC to handle.
Eliadbu - Saturday, September 25, 2021 - link
if you heard the same thing over and over again maybe it's the truth, ever it crossed your mind ?Zen 3 is far from EOL, EOL usually can take place several years from the point the product is being replaced by newer one. and even if we get zen 4 at q 3-4 this is 1 year from now and that is a lot of time for the people the board is aimed for.
OC on zen 3 does give you added performance like also memory OC but you need to tweak the settings (like the infinity fabric clock) for getting the optimal results.
If you ask about all EVGA boards in general not all of them are designed for extreme OC. this boards does and you can see in all the features and aspects of this board, people can use EVGA boards as they like and EVGA won't stop them since in the end their boards they can do whatever they like but this board while it can be used for 24/7 rigs its features and design philosophy was aimed for Xtreme OC.
the boards is expensive for different aspects (form USB headers or gazilion m.2 slots) like the triple bios, probe it connector, slow-mod switch, SLI support, better telemetry, massive heatsink, power delivery design, board layout etc etc.
the 2 DIMM desgin is for more optimal memory pathway which allows faster clocks again Xtreme OC feature.
If you ever going to do Xtreme OC you will understand why this board is well fitted for Xtreme OC and where its price comes from. as I said this board is not for you it's for people who appreciate these features.
Silver5urfer - Sunday, September 26, 2021 - link
Only people who are either hardcore fanboys or shills do that sort of crap. Ryzen doesn't have any OC potential. That's a known fact and it reaches instability with a lot of memory issues on top. This board is nothing special. OCers like Buildzoid and Luumi use MSI X570 Unify on LN2, you can keep doing the PR service.This board doesn't deserve that price tag. No matter what, there are boards like GB Xtreme which have even bigger VRMs and Heatsinks than this. DARK is the only Xtreme OC why is this priced more than Z590 DARK ? When the Z590 infact has more HS, More VRMs, More M.2 slots, 20gbps USB port on rear ? Yeah some magical BS they are only doing this because of demand of X570 boards and that's it. Nothing else. This is a rip off of the X570. It doesn't even have damn backplate at such high cost.
And all that said, I'm interested in this board because of BIOS and expecting no USB issues not your PR kerfuffle BS.
Duwelon - Thursday, September 23, 2021 - link
I have an EVGA Z270 board which has been fairly solid, but I wish EVGA supported their boards a little bit more. Their BIOS updates stop coming pretty quickly compared to other vendors like Asus, and mine hasn't had an intel security update since 2019, or about 1.5 years after release. Asus and other vendors seem to provide support much longer and I can't see myself going with EVGA over one of them anytime soon because of that.