I thought I'm fairly willing to put more than necessary money into a case and have considered something like a ft02 before. But man $500... And it doesn't even look THAT innovative. It's just a p18x with hard drive cages more isolated.
Agreed, I used to be a huge fan of Antec's cases (900 and 1200 were awesome at the time), but they've just fallen way behind the likes of Cooler Master and Corsair. I just don't see what makes these things worth the price, is it made out of copper?
Maybe if every single SSD/HDD bay had a SATA backplane, or it had some fancy 1200W PSU with pre-routed cabling....
Is it just me or everybody is slapping the "Signature" or "Edition" brand on anything? Am I missing something about this, is there a special meaning or just marketing?
Just aluminum? They don't use aluminum alloy(6061-T6)? A vast majority of aluminum products that are available in the market and referred to as aluminum are actually aluminum alloys. How much does it cost to machine this case? The panel on it is clearly very thick 4mm. @Margalus Doesn't cost depend on the shape and thickness? Is it really accurate to provide price by lb?
It's accurate for what I was replying to, which was someone saying Aluminum wasn't cheap. I gave the cost of the raw material at current market prices to see which was "cheap.
For overall raw material cost alone, copper would probably end up costing over 50 times as much as aluminum because of the mass and price difference.
$500 is just the MSRP. Nothing in this industry sells for that. I'm sure we'll see something competitive. Compared to the lame Corsair 900D, this is a much better buy. Out of all the high end crazy cases out there, this is something that's refreshing in design and actually usable.
I couldn't agree more. Silverstone (especially the Fortress models) like Lian Li, can get pretty expensive, but this thing is downright stupidly expensive. The original Fortress FT-01 was ~$250 at launch and although it's one of the most amazing cases I've ever owned, I still haven't topped $250 on a case in my life.
This Antec looks awesome though. It is designed nearly perfectly, down to the motherboard tray cutout under the CPU (amazing how many people forget that) but it has too many fans. It's too bad they couldn't use 1-2 large intake's and one large exhaust, but I guess Antec wants to keep this compatible with their 120x360 radiators...
a computer without an optical drive is worthless, unless you are in a workplace using a workstation where they don't want you to be able to do anything else. And this case isn't designed for workstations...
I, quite literally, have not used an optical drive, since, roughly, 4 years ago. Everyone uses either portable drives or thumb drives these days, since the data can be copied, modified and deleted within seconds. Programs are now available through digital downloads, and that's how most of the roll out goes these days too.
Sure, why not? I still have a ton of old back games, and data on optical discs, which I need to have a drive for to access.
Plus I have a nice DVD collection I like to watch from time to time on my Dell Ultrasharp, and I'm building up a Blu Ray collection too. Not everyone has or wants an HTPC or streaming video box.
Stamped discs last a lot longer, but unless you are using archive grade discs, quite a lot of writable DVD discs degrade quite fast, and are completely unreliable for storing data. Even portable external drives are a lot more reliable than DVDs for storing data in the long term.
As for DVD collections, sure, why not, however, for BD, I can tell you that standalone players are far cheaper and superior to what the PC has to offer. First, and foremost, the cost of a BD drive and BD playback software is, easily, twice that of a quality standalone player, because you either need to buy a 'forever license', or pay up yearly to renew the BD license to playback newer BD titles. Standalone players don't have this problem. You also don't have to buy a separate remote with standalones and don't have to worry about finicky remote emulation software that is usually found on software BD players for PC.
Most of my data/games on discs are either stamped (original game discs), or archive quality discs.
Fair enough point about BD,and I might consider that as an alternative. However with the DVD collection, and all the other data/old games, I still have a legitimate need for an optical drive.
Also since you missed reading all my replies, I will emphasize that I'm a Silverstone fan first and foremost. Virtually all Silverstone cases have space for optical drives. I could care less about NZXT.
I re-read the article a few times but I don't see how many drives can be used for the storage chamber? Is it just 6? If it was 9 or more, it would be nicer.
Once again, Antec will prove that the money it commands versus the actual quality and functionality of the case will be extremely far apart.
$500? You're getting into CaseLabs territory at that point, and they make a FAR more robust case than Antec dreams of making.
Mark my words, once we get a production sample, this thing will have plastic somewhere. For $500, I expect NO panelling of this case to be plastic. But that mesh where the I/O ports are on the top? Guaranteed it will be plastic.
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surasak - Monday, June 1, 2015 - link
I thought I'm fairly willing to put more than necessary money into a case and have considered something like a ft02 before. But man $500... And it doesn't even look THAT innovative. It's just a p18x with hard drive cages more isolated.chizow - Tuesday, June 2, 2015 - link
Agreed, I used to be a huge fan of Antec's cases (900 and 1200 were awesome at the time), but they've just fallen way behind the likes of Cooler Master and Corsair. I just don't see what makes these things worth the price, is it made out of copper?Maybe if every single SSD/HDD bay had a SATA backplane, or it had some fancy 1200W PSU with pre-routed cabling....
theness - Tuesday, June 2, 2015 - link
Obviously it's not made out of copper. Aluminum is not cheap either.close - Tuesday, June 2, 2015 - link
Is it just me or everybody is slapping the "Signature" or "Edition" brand on anything? Am I missing something about this, is there a special meaning or just marketing?Morawka - Tuesday, June 2, 2015 - link
there is literally $10 of aluminum budMargalus - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
aluminum is 77¢/lb, copper is $2.77/lb.Kutark - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
Molybdenum is $7.94/lb.Desired Username 2015 - Thursday, June 4, 2015 - link
Just aluminum? They don't use aluminum alloy(6061-T6)? A vast majority of aluminum products that are available in the market and referred to as aluminum are actually aluminum alloys. How much does it cost to machine this case? The panel on it is clearly very thick 4mm.@Margalus
Doesn't cost depend on the shape and thickness? Is it really accurate to provide price by lb?
Margalus - Thursday, June 4, 2015 - link
It's accurate for what I was replying to, which was someone saying Aluminum wasn't cheap. I gave the cost of the raw material at current market prices to see which was "cheap.For overall raw material cost alone, copper would probably end up costing over 50 times as much as aluminum because of the mass and price difference.
theness - Tuesday, June 2, 2015 - link
$500 is just the MSRP. Nothing in this industry sells for that. I'm sure we'll see something competitive. Compared to the lame Corsair 900D, this is a much better buy. Out of all the high end crazy cases out there, this is something that's refreshing in design and actually usable.Samus - Tuesday, June 2, 2015 - link
I couldn't agree more. Silverstone (especially the Fortress models) like Lian Li, can get pretty expensive, but this thing is downright stupidly expensive. The original Fortress FT-01 was ~$250 at launch and although it's one of the most amazing cases I've ever owned, I still haven't topped $250 on a case in my life.This Antec looks awesome though. It is designed nearly perfectly, down to the motherboard tray cutout under the CPU (amazing how many people forget that) but it has too many fans. It's too bad they couldn't use 1-2 large intake's and one large exhaust, but I guess Antec wants to keep this compatible with their 120x360 radiators...
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, June 2, 2015 - link
$500 MSRP, huge physical footprint, nothing innovative, and no space for optical drives?Antec is out of their minds. Silverstone all the way.
meacupla - Tuesday, June 2, 2015 - link
you still use optical drives?Margalus - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
a computer without an optical drive is worthless, unless you are in a workplace using a workstation where they don't want you to be able to do anything else. And this case isn't designed for workstations...meacupla - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
I, quite literally, have not used an optical drive, since, roughly, 4 years ago.Everyone uses either portable drives or thumb drives these days, since the data can be copied, modified and deleted within seconds.
Programs are now available through digital downloads, and that's how most of the roll out goes these days too.
Dark_Archonis - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
Sure, why not? I still have a ton of old back games, and data on optical discs, which I need to have a drive for to access.Plus I have a nice DVD collection I like to watch from time to time on my Dell Ultrasharp, and I'm building up a Blu Ray collection too. Not everyone has or wants an HTPC or streaming video box.
meacupla - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
Stamped discs last a lot longer, but unless you are using archive grade discs, quite a lot of writable DVD discs degrade quite fast, and are completely unreliable for storing data. Even portable external drives are a lot more reliable than DVDs for storing data in the long term.As for DVD collections, sure, why not, however, for BD, I can tell you that standalone players are far cheaper and superior to what the PC has to offer. First, and foremost, the cost of a BD drive and BD playback software is, easily, twice that of a quality standalone player, because you either need to buy a 'forever license', or pay up yearly to renew the BD license to playback newer BD titles. Standalone players don't have this problem. You also don't have to buy a separate remote with standalones and don't have to worry about finicky remote emulation software that is usually found on software BD players for PC.
Dark_Archonis - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
Most of my data/games on discs are either stamped (original game discs), or archive quality discs.Fair enough point about BD,and I might consider that as an alternative. However with the DVD collection, and all the other data/old games, I still have a legitimate need for an optical drive.
theness - Thursday, June 4, 2015 - link
You still use optical drives? Are you stuck in the 2000s? Upgrade man. Even NZXT H440 doesn't have it I don't see you saying anything.Optical drives pretty much useless.
I guess you're still making mix CDs for your high school girlfriend
Dark_Archonis - Thursday, June 4, 2015 - link
Cool story bro. Next time, try reading all my replies.Dark_Archonis - Thursday, June 4, 2015 - link
Also since you missed reading all my replies, I will emphasize that I'm a Silverstone fan first and foremost. Virtually all Silverstone cases have space for optical drives. I could care less about NZXT.genghisquan - Tuesday, June 2, 2015 - link
Seems cool. The biggest area of innovation is the storage chamber, but it's not really interesting enough to dish out $500.theness - Thursday, June 4, 2015 - link
Actually there's a vent that helps cooling. This is way more usable and innovative than lets say the Level 10 and 900D.Gigaplex - Friday, June 5, 2015 - link
It's not the first case I've seen with chambers. Hardly innovation and not what I'd consider patent worthy.bill.rookard - Tuesday, June 2, 2015 - link
Mmmmm... I really like it. Not $500.00 worth of like, but if I had the scratch, I'd buy it.MikhailT - Tuesday, June 2, 2015 - link
I re-read the article a few times but I don't see how many drives can be used for the storage chamber? Is it just 6? If it was 9 or more, it would be nicer.meacupla - Tuesday, June 2, 2015 - link
looks like 6x 3.5" and 8x 2.5"Margalus - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
is it really "AND" 8x 2.5"? or should it be "OR" 8x 2.5"?meacupla - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
Check Tom's. Looks like 3x (2x 3.5" + 1x 2.5") up front, and 5x 2.5" at the bottom, in front of the PSU.iamkyle - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
Once again, Antec will prove that the money it commands versus the actual quality and functionality of the case will be extremely far apart.$500? You're getting into CaseLabs territory at that point, and they make a FAR more robust case than Antec dreams of making.
Mark my words, once we get a production sample, this thing will have plastic somewhere. For $500, I expect NO panelling of this case to be plastic. But that mesh where the I/O ports are on the top? Guaranteed it will be plastic.
At $250, the Enthoo Primo is still a winner here.
theness - Thursday, June 4, 2015 - link
Really? You're gonna knock quality based off pictures?Why don't you try things out first and check the build.
Kutark - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
I'm impressed, i'm just not $500 impressed...NvidiaWins - Thursday, June 4, 2015 - link
Not that nice, def not worth 500$